1858 1 cent opinions

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johnspa
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1858 1 cent opinions

Post by johnspa » Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:35 pm

Hello, I have this 1858 cent which I believe is a broken stem, full vine on leaf 9.
I would like others opinions please.
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johnspa
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Re: 1858 1 cent opinions

Post by johnspa » Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:40 pm

johnspa wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:35 pm
Hello, I have this 1858 cent which I believe is a broken stem, full vine on leaf 9.
I would like others opinions please.
johnspa wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:35 pm
Hello, I have this 1858 cent which I believe is a broken stem, full vine on leaf 9.
I would like others opinions please.
It’s graded by NGC as a 1858 broken stem vf35.

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Re: 1858 1 cent opinions

Post by Bill in Burl » Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:03 pm

You've got the word "vine" confused. The vine is the large, thick line that snakes around between the beads and the denticles and has stems that attach the leaves. Only the first 2 dies Maybe 3) had full stems. The rest all had a vine break at 13, then one showed at 7 and, finally at 2. The photos are not clear but I think you have a broke vine at 13 and maybe at 7 .... and it looks like you have a broken stem at 9 (it appears to be a little short to connect to the leaf). The VINE is the large part sweeping though 360 degrees and the stem is what connects the vine to the leaf. What you have is fairly common for an 1858.
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Re: 1858 1 cent opinions

Post by Bill in Burl » Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:28 am

The photos aren't clear enough to ID which Reverse that you actually have with Turner numbers and percent of dies used. Do you have any die cracks on the Reverse? Can't see any on the Reverse. There were nearly 50 reverse dies used and Turner has ID'd them all, but hard to tell yours from the photos/plastics/tabs.
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Re: 1858 1 cent opinions

Post by Bill in Burl » Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:51 pm

Read the suggestions that I posted and I asked for some more info on die cracks to be seen on the Reverse. We are trying to help
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