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1859

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:52 am
by BR1859
PC59-177

Re: 1859

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:41 am
by Bill in Burl
Close to becoming a cud. That's quite the crack.

Re: 1859

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:16 am
by BR1859
That’s for sure bill

Haxby has it as a rarity 10 with only one known
I’m not sure if he’s updated in the last while
This one was sitting in my extra book

Re: 1859

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:34 am
by Bill in Burl
Which Haxby number?

Re: 1859

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:50 am
by BR1859
177

Re: 1859

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:57 am
by BR1859
The die break is quite a bit further along on this one

I’ll try to post more pics tonight of the second and ninth leaves

Re: 1859

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:29 am
by Bill in Burl
Yep, it looks like j7K. However, I have a hard time believing Haxby's rarity scale. He has 6-7 that say rarity 10, and I find that unfathomnable. I'll look through mine and I think that I have 2 10's that would be in addition to his, I guess. Although I sent 6-700 59's to "Phil" for the Haxby site, I didn't send about 50 of my best varieties because I didn't want them lost in the mail. Phil went ahead and catalogued and ID'd all that I sent, so he could include the info for the Haxby site. Some, from him, were very high rarity and I had multiples of many of those. I'll try to ID, for myself, the really good coins into Haxby numbers and I'll find a few more 10's. I like the Griffin grades that are much more reasonable. He seldom went over 8 (less than 10 known) and there was no 10's. Anyway, nice find.

Re: 1859

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:20 pm
by Phil413
The Haxby catalog lists 9 die pairs as R-10, but the article was written about 4 1/2 years ago. ( time flies )

Of those 9 die pairs, only 3 are still actually R-10. At least one other example has been reported for the other 6. The three that are still R-10 are Haxby #'s 53, 99, and 168. Since the article was written 5 additional previously unknown die pairs have been reported. They are 25A, 49A, 64A, 71A, and 134A. All of those are R-10 except 134A where 2 examples are known to us. So the current R-10 total is 7.

R-9's and R-10's are about equally rare. I'm sure another example of all R-10's will be found in time and there are probably some already in collections that have not been reported to us. We will probably update the rarity table this year in the catalog. Hope this information helps in the meantime.

That is a beautiful PC59-177 you posted photos of and a very late die state! I know of 5 examples of this die pair currently. Congratulations on a nice find.

Re: 1859

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:52 am
by GALLANT
BR1859
Here is the one I have which is an earlier Die State than yours and not as nice as yours either! Congratulations on finding such a nice example.



MG

Re: 1859

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:28 am
by Phil413
Very nice one Gallant, and thanks for letting me know about this forum thread.

Here is my low grade example which I just got this week. The die state on this one is between the other two.
A fourth example is the discovery piece pictured in the Haxby catalog. The 5th one I have seen was sold on ebay maybe two years ago. I was going to bid on it in the last minute and my computer froze up. :( Two years later I finally got to add the 177 to my collection. :)
177 - 4812 Obv small.jpg
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Re: 1859

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:39 am
by BR1859
Awesome stuff
I’ve had mine for a few years but hadn’t had the time to attribute it
I love that Haxby site

Re: 1859

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:46 pm
by GALLANT
BR1859,

If you collect these 1859 by Die Pair, why not show us more of your 1859's! We would like to see them! :) :)

MG

Re: 1859

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:20 pm
by Bill in Burl
With the moniker BR1959, I think that I know who it is. Long time, no see, Brad.

Re: 1859

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:41 pm
by GALLANT
Yes BR1859 also reminded me of someone on the old CCRS site

MG

Re: 1859

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 2:38 pm
by BR1859
Yeah that was a great site with lots of knowledgeable members many moons ago

Coming back to the 59s was nice to see the Advancements that haxby has made

I had most of mine attributed to his old numbers, but I noticed that he had changed them at some point lol