1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

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1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby CDNMace » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:28 pm

Wondering if someone could help me identify if this is an obverse 5 or 6?

Thanks,

Steve


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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby verdigris » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:56 pm

Unfortunately, it's a 6 :(
I could post a pic of my obv#5 if you'd like :D

But hey-- it's a nice coin nevertheless. Don't throw it away :wink:

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby CDNMace » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:36 am

verdigris wrote:Unfortunately, it's a 6 :(
I could post a pic of my obv#5 if you'd like :D

But hey-- it's a nice coin nevertheless. Don't throw it away :wink:

Cheers



Cheers, Rod. And PLEASE do [post a pic of yours]. These obverse's are giving me a headache. Hell, it took Bill forever to get me to grasp it with the large cents. lol

I'd appreciate it.

I have another that looks different (lower grade) but this is driving me buts.

Cheers,

Steve

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby CDNMace » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:45 am

This is my other one. Somehow they don't look the same side-by-side, in hand. But now that I'm looking at the photos, they sort of do. :?

The top of the foreheads look different to me. But then again...

You make the call.

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby Shylo » Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:53 pm

This may sound weird.. but isn't there a very easy tell with the ear and the shape of the eye?

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby CDNMace » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:49 pm

Shylo wrote:This may sound weird.. but isn't there a very easy tell with the ear and the shape of the eye?



Y'see, now I thought it was the forehead like with the 5 cents. Doh! Now I'm totally lost.

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby verdigris » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:04 pm

The easiest way that I've found to see the shape/slope of the forehead is to turn the coin so that the bridge of the nose and the point where her forehead meets the laurel are on a horizontal. By doing so I've found your attention is focused on the shape of the "hill", and in setting coins with two different obverses side-by-side in this fashion you'll be able to see that the difference between them is very noticable.

There's also a slight difference between obverses along her throat. The #6 runs quite straight down from her chin to her collar bone, whereas the #5 has a bit of a S-curve to it. It's best to view this upside-down. I figured that one out trying to date worn-dates.

Ace, I'll post two pics. One of a very nice 1896 obv.5 that I don't own, and one of my G-6.

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby verdigris » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:20 pm

Shylo wrote:This may sound weird.. but isn't there a very easy tell with the ear and the shape of the eye?


Unfortunately a lot of my Victoria 5c and 10c are deaf and blind. :(

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby CDNMace » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:26 pm

verdigris wrote:The easiest way that I've found to see the shape/slope of the forehead is to turn the coin so that the bridge of the nose and the point where her forehead meets the laurel are on a horizontal. By doing so I've found your attention is focused on the shape of the "hill", and in setting coins with two different obverses side-by-side in this fashion you'll be able to see that the difference between them is very noticable.

There's also a slight difference between obverses along her throat. The #6 runs quite straight down from her chin to her collar bone, whereas the #5 has a bit of a S-curve to it. It's best to view this upside-down. I figured that one out trying to date worn-dates.

Ace, I'll post two pics. One of a very nice 1896 obv.5 that I don't own, and one of my G-6.

Cheers



Thanks, Rod. Fantastic tip. However, with these ones, I've got these two side-by-side (side-by-each, for our Quebecois friends)... I'm seeing two different hill shapes on the foreheads, but what appears to be the same neck. The second one I posted is far more worn than the other, but I still see a difference in the forehead.

Still perplexed. :?

What's your opinion of the second one, 6 as well?

Steve

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby verdigris » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:37 pm

CDNMace wrote:What's your opinion of the second one, 6 as well?

Yes. I think so.

So hold your horses. Trying to find batteries for my camera...

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby Shylo » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:54 pm

ohh wow... I'm looking forward to the pics... gimme more..:D

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby verdigris » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:16 pm

Had enough juice to take one photo.

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You see? The forehead flattens on a #5... not even close to the high curve of the #6, which, as soon as I find another battery I'll take a shot of a 1898 obv#6 so you can compare side-by-heach tabernac!

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby CDNMace » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:58 pm

verdigris wrote:Had enough juice to take one photo.

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You see? The forehead flattens on a #5... not even close to the high curve of the #6, which, as soon as I find another battery I'll take a shot of a 1898 obv#6 so you can compare side-by-heach tabernac!

Cheers


That's perfect! I totally see it now. Thanks, Rod!!

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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby verdigris » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:19 pm

1898 10c Obverse #6...
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And you can also compare 'curvey(#5) vs flat(#6)' along the throat.
The photo I originally mentioned I couldn't find but moot at this point methinks.
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Re: 1896 10 Cents Obverse Variety

Postby CDNMace » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:52 am

Cheers, Rod, for all the help!! :D


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