1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

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1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

Postby CDNMace » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:54 pm

Was happy to cherry pick this. Very happy camper.

Wondering, does anyone know if there's a DDR number for this (I see CiC has it listed, but no assigned DDR number)? Two birds, one stone... What would you grade this at?

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Re: 1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

Postby verdigris » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:15 pm

VG

Cheers

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Re: 1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

Postby CDNMace » Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:18 pm

verdigris wrote:VG

Cheers


Thanks, yet again.

Any idea about the 'error' at all? Just want to know if it's a recognized double die, or machine doubling. Haven't 'seen' Bill from Burl around for a while -- our resident representative from the League of Extraordinary Numismatists.

Sometimes I think it's just the three of us. I ask a question, one of you two answer it. haha

S.

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Re: 1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

Postby henrysmedford » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:45 pm

CDNMace wrote:
verdigris wrote:VG

Cheers


Thanks, yet again.

Haven't 'seen' Bill from Burl around for a while -- our resident representative from the League of Extraordinary Numismatists.

Sometimes I think it's just the three of us. I ask a question, one of you two answer it. haha

S.


He is in the states see -- http://canadiancoppercoins.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2354

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Re: 1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

Postby Bill in Burl » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:58 am

I'm deer and hog hunting out in Okla. I normally just answer questions on Vicky large cents, unless it's something that I'm familiar with ... I'm not much into silver, but it looks like a repunch to me.
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Re: 1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

Postby CDNMace » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:58 am

Bill in Burl wrote:I'm deer and hog hunting out in Okla. I normally just answer questions on Vicky large cents, unless it's something that I'm familiar with ... I'm not much into silver, but it looks like a repunch to me.



Thanks guys.

Hey Bill (or anyone who can help)... just to clarify, 'repunch', would that be what we simpletons south of the border call double die? When I see repunch I think RPM, and this is lettering. Sorry, there's just so many different terms used in the at the opposite ends of the 15 minutes the Canadian border is from my house. Ha-ha.

C&C has it listed as an error (http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins-pri ... -1870-1901), just no Zoell number or anything; and 2014 Charlton doesn't have errors listed or this (1871 50) as having different varieties other than H and no-H.

Thanks, and happy hunting.

Steve

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Re: 1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

Postby Bill in Burl » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:41 pm

My personal definition of a repunch is that a working die has a letter or digit weakening or damaged. The guy on the mint floor takes a handpunch and repunches the character until it looks right, but they never get it exactly on. That may not be the right term, but it's what I say and understand.

When they are making the working dies from the hub, it takes 2-4 pressings after hardening and annealing cycles to fully complete the working die. Working dies are usually not completed fully in the same day or week or month sometimes. Sometimes the 2nd or 3rd pressings aren't exactly on and you get many characters seemingly doubled .. almost looking like mechanical doubling in a way, but the doublings in that case are crisp rather than a 'shadowing' effect from MD.
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Re: 1871 50 Cents Double Die (Double C)

Postby CDNMace » Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:11 pm

Thanks as always, Bill!


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