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1874H-Crosslet 4

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:51 pm
by CDNMace
Just looking for some opinions on the grade of this 1874H Crosslet-4.

Was also wondering if anyone knows where I might be able to find any examples online of the 4/4? I can't seem to find any. There's something that stands out under the 4 on this piece. The photos are from different angles under a 45x. I can't decide if it's from a repunch or from wear.

If anyone knows any other indicators of what I should look for on a Crosslet 4 for the 4/4.

I added a photo of the incomplete H just for fun.

Thanks,

Steve


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Re: 1874H-Crosslet 4

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:41 am
by Bill in Burl
I don't know if Charlton had an annual issue with the 5 cent silvers in the variety section in the back. As far as I know, there are only the regular and the crosslet 4 and no 4/4, but I could very well be wrong. Your coin just looks like a crosslet.

Re: 1874H-Crosslet 4

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:28 am
by CDNMace
Bill in Burl wrote:I don't know if Charlton had an annual issue with the 5 cent silvers in the variety section in the back. As far as I know, there are only the regular and the crosslet 4 and no 4/4, but I could very well be wrong. Your coin just looks like a crosslet.


Thanks Bill. I'll see if I can locate a Charlton with a fish scale section. CaC has it listed as a variety, but no photos or description; NGC and PCGS do not have it listed as a variety at all. I was primarily curious about what others thought of the grade of this one. I hadn't, until now, seen such a shade of purple on a fish scale yet; so that, to me, was kind of neat.

I think I'm getting better at identifying grades on them, but Rod (veridgris) and yourself (and some others) have way better knowledge grading Canadian coins. So I lean on you guys for verification or redirection.

As always, thanks.

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Re: 1874H-Crosslet 4

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:48 am
by Bill in Burl
From actual wear-wise, I would say VF-30, maybe a bit better. However, there is lots of corrosion, of which the purple is a part. It especially has been cleaned right around the 4 previously .. probably to see what it was. It may have been buried and then cleaned to see what was there. Fishsclaes are really not my forte.

Re: 1874H-Crosslet 4

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:49 pm
by CDNMace
Bill in Burl wrote:From actual wear-wise, I would say VF-30, maybe a bit better. However, there is lots of corrosion, of which the purple is a part. It especially has been cleaned right around the 4 previously .. probably to see what it was. It may have been buried and then cleaned to see what was there. Fishsclaes are really not my forte.



Thanks, Bill.

Re: 1874H-Crosslet 4

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:54 pm
by CDNMace
PS... if it were a Morgan with purple corrosion, wouldn't that be called "Monster toning"? Ha-ha.

Says, 'Mr. I Honestly Thought it Was Luster'. :wink:
(I really did).